3 Replies Latest reply on Jul 15, 2015 3:58 PM by Mehdi Mollahosseini

    FT-IR Graph Help

    Hunter Pauker

      I'm a student in the last class of the series of general chemistry at my university. For our last lab we got to use an FT-IR spectroscopy machine to scan three different polymers and an everyday object (polymer) of our choice. I brought in this stuff called APT-II Porcelain and Stoneware Enhancer, which is kind of like a glue for unfired pottery (I'm a potter in my spare time). So I scanned it and the graph came out crazy. The graph can be seen below. Can anyone tell me what this chemical is? When my TA looked at it she was very confused. The bottle did say it's an acrylic emulsion additive, but I really have no clue what that is. I also need to know the exact chemical model of it, or at least a pretty good guess of it. Can any of you guys give it a shot?

      APT-II Acrylic Emulsion Additive.png

        • Re: FT-IR Graph Help
          Ralph Nelson

          The APTII products page at http://www.apt2products.com/porcelain.htm says

           

           

          "acrylic emulsion additive that is food safe and non-toxic.  It cleans up with water and has an indefinite shelf life." and " APT-II Enhancer will thicken all brands of slip and clay bodies, enabling the ceramist to attach, mend and create surface decorations."

           

           

          Thus one might infer that it is a mixture of several ingredients that would include at least water, an acrylate polymer, and an emulsifying agent.  An arylic polymer is a polymer of 2-propenoic acid,

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          C=CH2

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          COOH

          You should be able to look up on the web where the main infra-red peaks are located.

          My book, "Dispersing Powders in Liquids" (Elsevier, 1988) mentions polyacrylates as dispersing agents but does not include the infra-red spectrum.

          • Re: FT-IR Graph Help
            llnatashall

            One thing you could do to get a better spectrum is dry your sample. Most likely this polymer is dispersed in water hence the giant peak distorting the graph a bit at the 3500 range. Maybe cure/dry the polymer film on a piece of glass or silcon wafer overnight in an oven, and then take a spectrum with your dry film.

            • Re: FT-IR Graph Help
              Mehdi Mollahosseini

              Hi

               

              In order to recognize the structure of chemical compound, FT-IR can not be that much helpful, for this 1D and 2D NMR along with Mass spectroscopy and IR could give you a solid idea. But usually IR to for confirmation, for example, here you already know about the general compound containing Acrylic acid, now you can confirm the peaks at 1800 and 2500 for carbonyl and carboxylic respectively. This is what I ask my student to do in similar cases, scan the sample, get the spectrum, write down their guess (which they already may know in this case, Acrylic) then assign the peaks they see as much as possible. Remember the fingerprint area (below 1200nm) we are not interested in it, as there is a lot of overlapped peaks overthere. Hope this works for you. Let me know if you have any more questions.