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GArjcc
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Aldol condesation

Hi,

I was carrying out an aldol reaction with 2'-hydroxyacphenone and 4-methythiobenzaldhye with KOH in methanol there was no reaction after beeing left over night . I then repeated the reaction at with heat and reflux and again no reaction. When i carried the reaction out with NaOH in ethanol with heat and reflux  it had  worked. 

 

Is there any reason for the reaction not to work with KOH and methanol as the reagent ?

Thanks

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ARN321
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Re: Aldol condesation

Ethanol is best solvent for aldol condensation.

Temperature is also important. When reaction takes place at RT, the aldol addition product is produced. At 50C, the aldol condensation product is isolated..

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Lorena783lopez
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Re: Aldol condesation

The choice of base and solvent in aldol condensation reactions can significantly impact the reaction outcome. In your case, it seems like there was a difference in reactivity when using KOH in methanol compared to NaOH in ethanol.

Here are a few possible reasons why the reaction might not have worked with KOH in methanol:

 

  • Solubility: Some reactants or intermediates might be more soluble in ethanol than in methanol. This can affect the kinetics of the reaction and the formation of the aldol product.

 

  • Basicity: KOH is generally considered a stronger base than Na OH. While this increased basicity can enhance reactivity in some cases, it can also lead to side reactions or decomposition of sensitive reactants.

 

  • Hydrogen Bonding: Methanol and ethanol differ in their ability to form hydrogen bonds. This can influence the stabilization of intermediates and transition states in the aldol reaction. GMSocrates

 

  • Temperature Sensitivity: Some aldol condensation reactions are highly temperature-sensitive. It's possible that the reaction conditions (temperature, refluxing time) with KOH in methanol were not optimal for your specific reactants.

 

  • Competing Reactions: The choice of base and solvent can sometimes promote competing reactions such as dehydration or side reactions that consume the starting materials without forming the desired aldol product.

 

  • Steric Effects: The specific structure of your reactants might make them more prone to steric hindrance or other factors that affect reactivity differently depending on the base and solvent used.

 

Given that the reaction proceeded successfully with Na OH in ethanol under heat and reflux conditions, it suggests that this combination provided the right environment for the aldol condensation to occur efficiently. If you need further insights or specific advice for optimizing your reaction conditions, providing more details about your reactants' structures or the desired product could be helpful.

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